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I'm done with the Prius
#1
My Prius died on Friday night after only four years of moderate abuse. It was a dramatic death. It's a bit of a long story, so bear with me.

I got home from a show around 2 AM Friday morning to find Stacy on the phone with her doula client. She told her to go to bed and call in the morning. Being wound up from the show, I didn't sleep much and that client called again around 6ish, so Stacy left. So I took Tara to school, called my coworker to pick up a visiting master from SFO who I was scheduled to pick up for a shoot that morning. At work, there was a lawyer's letter threatening lawsuit because someone called his client a ninny on our forum (this happens a lot - a constant botherof my job) along with some other assorted chaos, but I managed to push it all to Monday and just focus on the shoot. That went ok, all things considered - shoots are always a lot of work but it's fun and creative, so it's a mixed bag and very challenging on little sleep. By the time that master left, I had to rush to pick up Tara for her swim class so I had to forward some work home via email, an email blast that needed to go out that night. We got to swim class and Tara mentioned I had forgot her goggles, so we rushed home, couldn't find them, started to freak out, then she said 'oh you can just borrow them from the school' and I was like 'why didn't you say so?' so back we rushed. She was in the water only 5 minutes late. Class went well for her and I got to catch my breath for half an hour - at this point, I figure I'd been on the go for some 30+ hours with only that short nap between doula client calls. Then we went back home to get Tara fed, bathed and to finish that work item. As I was just about to email it, thinking 'ahh, finally, I can rest' Stacy called saying she had got separated from her car - it was parked at her client's house in Daly City and she was now stuck at the hospital in Burlingame. So I wrap Tara in a blanket (she was already in her PJ's) and plunged into the worst traffic ever - Friday night, first big storm of the season. Almost there, and my Prius warning lights go off. I pick up Stacy and as we leave the hospital, the Prius computer system totally crashes. I swear it looked like the deck of the Enterprise when the Klingons attack - screen flashing warnings, then blinking on and off, then black. I lose power and have to push the car up into the driveway of an old folks home in the pouring rain. The car is dead and it's an ugly storm. My family stays in the car as I call AAA and I'm thinking about that Kim guy who just died in the snow. I get a tow truck, but in the storm and at that location, there was no where to go, so we convince the tow guy to take us to Bart and leave the car. Oh, Stacy left her wallet in the car and I spent my petty cash on this visiting master. I'll get reimbursed, but Friday was payday and I left for Tara's swim class before getting my paycheck, much less cashing it. So we're counting change to make it the next step. We bart to Daly City and have just enough for cab fare to Stacy's car. It's cold, I'm soaked to the bone, and very late for Tara, who is only in a blanket and pjs. What a brutal night. I barely slept at all that night. I was so freaked out from the experience.

The next morning, Stacy dropped me off at the car and it started. I drove the car with warning lights blazing to a dealership a few miles away, where it now awaits a tech to arrive on Tuesday.

Now, I'm just trying to get through Xmas, a season I've always disliked since adulthood. Bah, humbug. I'm so done with Toyota. I had such hassles with that Camry earlier this year, and then hassles with the dealership over a reimbersing a rental fee (it just got solved last week, ironically) and the way that Prius gave out was just terrifying. My plan is to fix it, sell it, and get a normal car - one with minimal computer systems that anyone can work upon. The Prius still has decent blue book, assuming I can get it working again cheaply. I just fucking weatherized it too - new tires and an 80,000-mile check up. Of course, we're already in debt because of buying that stripped down Civic this year, but I just don't trust the Prius anymore. That failure was just too damn weird. I don't want to get caught like that again. Had that Prius given out on the freeway, with Tara, in the rain, that would have been such a nightmare. It was a nightmare as it was, but at least we came out of it ok.

I feel like the guy who jumped on the grenade, who took one for the team, who invested in this new technology and helped forward it, only to be stuck needing to get a second new car for 2006, right amidst the Xmas stress. Actually, this is only the second issue I've had with it since the steering column failed in August, but I'm just tired of being stuck with the damn Toyota dealership. The main one I've used is in walking distance of my office, but since they've made so much money lately, they've expanded and I've had nothing but negative experiences with them over this entire year. My Prius is at the Burlingame dealership now, but frankly, if I can live the rest of my life without ever stepping in a Toyota dealership again, that would be grand. This was my fourth Toyota. I've been a Toyota man for over two decades. I'm done now. I still support hybrid technology - it was the right thing to do for the environment and all Al Gore says, but I can't stand being stuck with the dealership anymore. Hell, I'll still use energy saving lights and compost. I've done my part with hybrid technology.

I'll find out what the damage is Tuesday probably. Until then, I'm hitching rides from my coworkers and family.

2006 has been an astoundingly bad year for me.
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#2
Sounds like a hell of a time. I have wondered what it going to happen to all those vehicles that have not had enough time to work out the kinks.

Several generations in the future they will be fine.

Glad to hear that you and your family made it thourgh safely.
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#3
My little $13,000 Scion xA (A Toyota by any other name) is doing great after 3 years and 60k miles.

The only problem I had was after I took it to a non-Toyota shop to replace a couple belts. They apparently used some American belts that were 'close' to the right size and after a couple weeks my car screamed like a banshee.

Our next car will be a Honda Element. Just as soon as our 16 year old Honda Civic with 416,000 miles decides to give up the ghost.

BTW if you are ever in that kind of bind again, don't hesitate to call. That's what brothers are for.
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#4
I've had my Corolla wagon for ten years with no problems. My parents got a Corolla sedan in 1976 (to the amusement of their friends and relatives at buying a small car) and my brother was still driving it until the early 90s.

I guess it's just the new technology. But I doubt I'll get a hybrid, if only because I want something like a wagon again.
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#5
While I'm sitting here waiting to take lady cranefly back to the Toyota dealership to pick up her Echo (an oil change and a recall fix) -- which seems only fair, since she did the same for me yesterday when I took my Prius to the Toyota dealership (an oil change and a recall fix) -- I thought I might as well weigh in.

I was perfectly happy with my Dodge Colt ('86?) until someone decided to smash in both sides of the windshield and a side window while it was parked on a street in East Palo Alto (that was enough to total it). Then I was happy enough with a used '93 Honda Civic until late last year when it failed smog (yep, they're very weak in one specific smog test, and not cheap to remedy).

That's when DM started chattering about the Prius. I should get a Prius. It's the one, a great car. Nothing better. Will never regret it. Besides, I should be environmentally responsible.

Well, I don't like bells and whistles. I like sticks. I like windows that roll up and down using human muscle. A steering wheel you wrestle on the turns. But DM wouldn't hear of it, no-sir-ee. He cajoled me endlessly. If I didn't buy a Prius, he'd stop talking to me. He'd take away my editing job. He'd tell everyone about some past incidents that, well, really belong deep in a closet.

When he started wearing steel-tipped shoes, I decided it was time to buy a Prius. That was late last year.

On the night of the last Doom gettogether, the maintenance light sprung on. I was headed home, in the middle of the Dumbarton Bridge actually, and there it was -- that damned maintenance light.
Fortunately, it was just telling me I'd reached 5000 miles and it was time for an oil change.
5000 miles in a year. Not bad.

To be honest, I like the Prius. It's a very nice car so far, and it's spoiled me in many ways.
I'll keep on liking the Prius right up to the point when I start hating its guts. Hopefully that won't be for a few years. And hopefully my hatred won't come all at once in one exhausting trauma-filled night.

Sorry to hear about the disaster. Next time feel free to dial 650-969-6183.

--cranefly
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#6
right into that prius. it's working again now after only one day with the tech. apparently it was a failure of the hv water pump. now i'm totally paranoid that it's going to go belly up again. this year, i actually got the prius weatherized in preparation for winter, so it was shocking to have it go offline so, especially with tara on a stormy night. my original plan was to keep the prius for 8 years until it's hybrid warrantees expire (neither the hv pump or the previous steering column issue were part of the hybrid system - those were conventional apparently). i'm bailing out half way through, mostly because of all the negative experiences i've had with toyota dealerships this year. hopefully i can still get a decent resale value out of the prius. time to move on to honda...
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#7
My brother has been driving an Element for a while and he loves it. I used one from City Car Share last week and liked it quite a lot. Roomy, peppy, and EZ to park.

For CF, I can recommend the Jeep Wrangler, stripped-down 4-banger edition. No power anything, and windows that unzip rather than roll down. Low tech, baby, low tech.

Of course, not much in the milage department...
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...but i don't trust it. i don't trust toyota anymore. i should rephrase my heading for this thread. i'm done with toyota. it just happens that i have a prius now. resale value is pretty good for hybrids, enough to pay for a new car pretty much. after the holidays, it's time for another new car. know anyone looking for a used hybrid? 2002 prius in good condition, about 80K on it...
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#9
I'm no longer one of the chosen, no longer one of the greenest of green, no longer a buddy of Al Gore's, no longer a lone driver with unlimited carpool lane access. I sold my Prius. No more being able to shout "More than $20?! That's outrageous!!" when I fill up at the pump next to a Hummer. No more quiet stillness at the stoplights as my conventional engine shuts down and my electric engine waits ready. No more smooth hum of starting and stopping like a golf cart. No more weeks and weeks between fill ups. Worst of all, no more carpool lane. That's the kicker. They ran out of carpool lane stickers so it added a lot of resale value. I don't even drive on the freeway to get to work, but I'll miss those stickers.

But I won't miss that fucking asshole repairs manager at the Toyota dealership. After being 25+ years of being a Toyota man (four Toyotas total - two Corollas, one Camry and the Prius) one asshole turned me off of the whole fleet.
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#10
I may not be one of the evolved, but I still have most of the bennies you've described. I go weeks and weeks between fill ups (telecommuting is a heavenly thing), when I fill up, even with the currently outrageous prices, it's not much over $20 to fill up. My old Honda Civic. Most boring car in the universe, but knock wood, it's cheap and dependable.
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#11
...and it makes me feel manly!
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#12
Or do you drive one? I am so confused.
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#13
It was your knee-jerk quick witty IM comeback to some comment about me selling my Prius.

I got a Honda Sport Fit in milano red. Oh yeah, baby, it's the midlife crises car for DM. Check it out:
http://automobiles.honda.com/models/exte...elName=Fit

Mrs DM now drives a 2006 Honda Civic. It's her third civic, I think. But the civic has evolved to a sedan and the fit is the new honda hatchback.
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#14
I don't think I or the PPFY could ever commute with you. That's the car you can park in the back of a Hummer. Does it fold up when you are done?
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#15
It's be great if it could fly too.

You'd be shocked how spacious the Fit is inside. Worse comes to worse, I can drop the seats and throw you under the cargo net. We might have to trim a few inches of flank fat, but you'll never miss it.

I should also let you know that it's a hell of a lot more spacious than the domestic China flight you'll be taking from Beijing to Emei.
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