Joker

[Greg]

Goddamn, Joaquin, put your shirt on. You're freaking me out. And go eat a sandwich for Christ sake.

It must be canon. They killed Bruce Wayne's parents. Enough already with ripping the pearls off Mrs. Wayne's neck.

That was a lot of misery to watch. All depressing all the time. It was the Taxi Driver of the DC Universe. Was it supposed to be redemptive? Do we need to justify the actions of our villains now with tortured childhoods? Whatever happened to some people just like to watch the world burn.

Joker always seemed to have a certain charisma which is sorely lacking here.

The best bit for me was when he finally gets on the talk show and you can start to see some of the Joker to be. It was still uneven.

Too much sad clown. Too many tears.

Plus, I, too, think Joaquin is a dick and have liked him in very few things.

[cranefly]

...That was a lot of misery to watch. All depressing all the time....

This film continues to be the coronavirus of cinema.  There's no clear logic in how it should spread, and yet it has.  It's been shockingly and globally successful.

(Just so you know, I'm sitting here right now shouting WTF! at the top of my lungs through a facemask.)

[Drunk Monk]

Plus, I, too, think Joaquin is a dick and have liked him in very few things.

I'm with you on that for Joaquin.  But Joker is a dick too, which is why this worked for me.  

And I feel ya on the damn pearls.

[Drunk Monk]

Watched again with Stacy. She thought it was the best Batman film she's seen. I beg to differ. The Adam West Batman movie remains the best one. You just can't beat 'Bat Shark Repellent'. Fortunately our marriage allows us such differences of opinion. 

On second viewing, the style of the film pops more - the music, the tone, the dark colors, Phoenix's quirkiness (which remains spot on), the explosive randomness of the violence. I found it engaging on a technical level, how it built and sustained tension. Still not sure that Phoenix deserved to sweep all the major Best Actors for it but I can't think of who else stood out that much last year.

[Drunk Monk]

Footnote to this in regards to the One Degree effect (as I'm dubbing it now - the occurence of the same actor in successive unconnected films like we've had with MM & TLK and M & RJ - see http://www.brotherhoodofdoom.com/doomFor...9#pid37529), Stacy experienced it again with this because she saw DeNiro the night before in Wizard of Lies playing Madoff. I skipped that because I was at my mom's watching Jumanji)